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I held my comment on your previous post, because I didn't really want to get into it. But it sounds like you want to get into it :)

I'm quite skeptical of the claim that we'll get to a post-human-work economy any time soon (any time in my life time). But while my predictions of hype not meeting reality have been pretty good so far, I agree the circumstances around this prediction are a little more murky. So, I have less confidence in this prediction than my previous ones.

But the core reason for my skepticism is the same as my past skepticism: Because this prediction is based entirely on speculation that the technology will continue to develop - and break through current ceilings - quickly and without fail. And historically, that's not a great bet, as the Cybernation Revolution mini-panic demonstrates.

One of the reasons for this is that both technology development and adoption take **TIME**. There is a very long tail to both of them.

But the main reason is that the capability to replace human work just isn't there yet. Not even close.

In fact, the proven technology we currently have (LLMs) literally can't get us there. We can't even overcome its inherent weaknesses (hallucinations, prompt injection, and other forms of misalignment) without handicapping the value the technology brings to the types of work it's already most useful for.

Which means we just don't have a technology - either already rolled out, or even in the pipeline - which will be able to replace the work of humans at 90% or more of knowledge work tasks.

Could we get there quickly? Well, anything's possible; but any prediction that we actually *will* is pure speculation. And though I'm not a political scholar, my limited knowledge suggests that making policy based on speculation is almost always a losing bet. In fact, it almost always seems to cause more problems than it solves.

So, to actually get to AGI (which is what's really necessary for the kind of displacement the AI cheerleaders are predicting), we need some new technology. And we don't even know what it is yet, let alone how fast we'll be able to develop and deploy it.

Hence my skepticism about yet another speculation-dependent prediction.

On the other side of the argument, there are some technologies in development (like symbolic AI) that might get us at least part of the way there. Which is why my skepticism is a little less confident this time around. But...speculation is still speculation until the technology is deployed in the real world.

My own personal prediction - which may affect how we view the urgency - is that we won't get to AGI until we create a system that's composed of multiple specialized machine intelligences working together. Because that's how human intelligence works.

The human brain isn't one big blob of intelligence that handles everything, but a system of 30 or more specialized regions, which ultimately work together to create what we consider real intelligence. I suspect we'll need something similar to reach AGI. LLMs will play a role (e.g. one specialized system). Symbolic AI will probably also play a role. But we'll likely need to develop specialized systems for several other types of tasks, and then to figure out how to coordinate them all well enough that they can act as a unit (at least as well as a mostly-sane human).

Thus, I expect AGI to take much more time than the cheerleaders are predicting. If my speculation is even partially correct, then rather than one big displacement, we may see a slow, rolling displacement of human work over a longer period of time, as new specialist technologies fill in the gaps in the AGI brain. That would make this prediction look quite a bit like the Cybernation Revolution. Because it would give us some time to adjust to each new incursion into the domain of human tasks that have previously resisted automation.

None of this means we shouldn't consider what society looks like when we have real AGI; we should. But it does suggest that we might want to question the urgency we place on dealing with the societal disruption of AGI until we at least have some small clue whether we'll even be able to get there - let alone how.

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